Technical Spearfishing Instruction

[GRIM REEFER]

Yea, This type of protocol could never work spearfishing


http://www.wkpp.org/seperationprotocol.htm

[GRIM REEFER]

We have no excuses for buddy separation lasting more than seconds. We stay as close as possible at all times. If you are not bumping into your buddy from time to time, you are too far away.

I may have a pissed off buddy if I stayed that close

[WreckHunter]

Originally Posted by jfjfjfj

I just wonder what specific gear configurations and techniques you apply from GUE that are superior in your opinion for Spearfishing. ?

Not superior for spearfishing per se, just better for real deep, with significant deco (in my opinion). I would be curious what about DIR gear config anyone thinks is unsafe or unwise for spearfishing. I am not trolling hear but sincerely interested in opinions. What problems have you seen or anticipate spearing with that gear configuration? To be honest most of my spearfishing has been less than 150 ft and wearing rec gear. But I can't see any reason why my tech gear would not be the safest thing to use when tech diving whether spearfishing or not.

Originally Posted by jfjfjfj

I specifically wonder how the buddy team approach works. It would seem that if multiple members of the team are shooting simultaneously (or even actively hunting) then the strict (or what I perceive as strict) buddy diving protocol would be diificult to implement. In other words, how do two or three guys really watch each other if they are all fighting their own fish?

Obviously the strict, close buddy team system would get in the way when you are each hunting. I think a diver always has to be flexible and adapt to the circumstances. Also we each have to be self reliant. But that doesn't mean the buddy system and redundant sytems are not a very good idea especially when diving with a ceiling (whether the ceiling is a cave roof, wreck penetration or a deco obligation)

[gulfdiver]

Didn't know where to post this so..........

TEC 1

Saturday July 1, through Tuesday July 4, 2006

Tec 1 class information: full price is $700.
With a $200. non refundable deposit.

Saturday July 1, we will meet at Morrison Springs at 8:00 am in Ponce-De-leon Florida for class and dives 1 and 2.
Dive fee is free.

Sunday July 2, we can meet at Vortex Springs in Ponce-De-leon www.vortexsprings.com at 8:00am dives 3, 4 and class. dive fee $25.00.

Sunday July 2, after the dives we will drive to Alabama Blue Water Adventures in Pelham Alabama. http://www.divealabama.com ( Approximately a 4 hour drive from Vortex.)


Monday July 3, we will meet at Alabama Blue Water Adventures at 8:00am for dives 5 and 6 and 3 final exams.
Dive fee $30.00

Sunday July 4, we will meet at Alabama Blue Water Adventures at 8:00am for dive 7 and final paperwork.
Dive fee $30.00. Conclusion of the Tec 1 class. Graduation and certification for the Tec 1 class.

Gas Information:

Tec 1 class
Back gas 21%
Stage bottle 32% ( 1 alum 80 )
Deco Bottle 50% ( 1 alum 80)

Instructor: Jeff Loflin PADI CD18604

Contact: Gary at Gary’s Gulf Divers 251-968-4279

[cebump]

Gary,

Where is Alabama Blue Water Adventures ?

Brian Bumpers

[gulfdiver]

Originally Posted by cebump

Gary,

Where is Alabama Blue Water Adventures ?

Brian Bumpers

Pelam, Al.

[GUNRUNNER]

Do You Guys Think The Recreational Trimix Course Is A Good Starter Course If You Are Thinking Of Going Deeper Eventually Or Is It A Waste Of Time And Money. Thanks, Jw

[dagodiver]

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNER

Do You Guys Think The Recreational Trimix Course Is A Good Starter Course If You Are Thinking Of Going Deeper Eventually Or Is It A Waste Of Time And Money. Thanks, Jw

I dont think any class tought properly is a waste of time or money.
I have been diving for 25 years and still am taking classes.
I am a slow learner.


Dago.

[EL GAVILAN]

TDI is currently ADV.NITROX, DECO TECNIQUES,EXTENDED RANGE, then TRIMIX (no longer called entry)which is 200ft. NAUI is ADV.NITROX,DECO,HELITROX,then TRIMIX I. Jim

[Thunderball]

Tony,

thanks for starting this section on spearboard. Since taking the advanced nitrox and decompression classes with Chad 2 years ago, I routinely and confidentally, penetrate the 130FSW mark and make decompression dives, while spearfishing. Those dives are often challenging (currents, colder, darker, larger fish, gas management issues, lift bag deployment). Most importantly, it requires a mind-set change from "buddy diving" to diving independently. Until now, those of us who have been using technical diving skills to hunt have been doing so in the shadows. It will be nice to have a forum we can use to share ideas.

btw - I'd agree with Chad about seeking training from someone who actually spearfishes. Tech diving is dangerous enough. When you add the complexities of hunting, it really requires top notch training.

Dirk P.

[Chad Carney]

Originally Posted by EL GAVILAN

TDI is currently ADV.NITROX, DECO TECNIQUES,EXTENDED RANGE, then TRIMIX (no longer called entry)which is 200ft. Jim

That's close but not entirely correct. Extended Range is not a prerequisite for Trimix, the others are.

This thread has been sitting for a while but continues to get a lot of traffic and I just noticed this while re-reading it.

Divers that have less than 50 dives and shallower than 100 feet would benefit from a recreational "Deep Diving" specialty prior to going tech.

Here's an interesting article called "Technical Spearfishing II",
scanned from Spearfishing Magazine in 2001. It features the story of Dan (Head Hunter) MacMahon and I in our TDI Trimix class... 75 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico.
http://www.mobilescuba.com/Technical...0II.htm(1).htm

Both of us shot carbos much bigger than this 83 pounder attached!

Chad

[Ydiveman]

New to the board. Recently moved down here from the frozen north. This is a facinating thread!! Thank you Tony for starting it. That 5 in one course deal sounds like a great educational experience!

[Chad Carney]

Ydiveman,

Welcome to Florida and Spearboard!

It's funny, I haven't looked at this thread in nearly a year.

Where are you and that green water from?

Chad

[one shot]

Originally Posted by WreckHunter

Not superior for spearfishing per se, just better for real deep, with significant deco (in my opinion). I would be curious what about DIR gear config anyone thinks is unsafe or unwise for spearfishing. I am not trolling hear but sincerely interested in opinions. What problems have you seen or anticipate spearing with that gear configuration?
(whether the ceiling is a cave roof, wreck penetration or a deco obligation)

My stage bottle under my left arm gets in the way of loading my gun. Otherwise my tech gear config. is excellent for spearfishing. 95% of my dives are solo dives.

[Chad Carney]

one shot,

My frozen extremities and brain would all be prohibitive to spearfishing!

Do you shoot fish in MN?

Chad