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Old 06-30-2020, 05:29 PM   #16
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"easy outs" are a TERRIBLE type of left had drill bit. You have to drill out the center of the bolt and insert the "easy out" and turn it counter clockwise and Sometimes it actually catches and removes the stud...SOMETIMES!
With A left had drill bit...start small, down the center of the bolt, then increase the size..eventually you will have drilled out enough of the bolt that it wont have much pressure on the outside threads, eventually the left had drill bit will bind on the case of the borken/stuck bolt and it will all turn out with the bit...EASY PEASY!
Try it, you'll like it!
You would need a reversing electric drill or driver. The idea is the cutting action does not tighten the thread even further. I have used glass drill bits and a drill press with everything clamped up and drilled the center out of the bolt with the standard right hand twist drill bits. After snapping a few off you can drill out the thread root diameter. The chance of drilling right down the middle is depressingly low, but if you use short shank drill bits the tip is less likely to wander. Usually I have to go up a size in the replacement screw or bolt. The only plus of alloy screws is you have a fighting chance of drilling them out, but for marine applications they are worthless sh*t in small diameters.

Your problem here would be getting the drill chuck down the handle hollow to keep the drill bit short. If you don't want the existing handle chop it off to access the screws.

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Old 06-30-2020, 05:48 PM   #17
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This would have to be an optimistic rendition.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:18 PM   #18
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"easy outs" are a TERRIBLE type of left had drill bit. You have to drill out the center of the bolt and insert the "easy out" and turn it counter clockwise and Sometimes it actually catches and removes the stud...SOMETIMES!
With A left had drill bit...start small, down the center of the bolt, then increase the size..eventually you will have drilled out enough of the bolt that it wont have much pressure on the outside threads, eventually the left had drill bit will bind on the case of the borken/stuck bolt and it will all turn out with the bit...EASY PEASY!
Try it, you'll like it!
Thanks buddy! This is a winner I need to add to my box of tools
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:48 PM   #19
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You would need a reversing electric drill or driver. The idea is the cutting action does not tighten the thread even further.
Sorry...I thought that was obvious. Left hand drill bit must be turned Counter Clockwise....But on that note, when was the last time you saw a drill that didn't reverse???
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:20 PM   #20
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Sorry...I thought that was obvious. Left hand drill bit must be turned Counter Clockwise....But on that note, when was the last time you saw a drill that didn't reverse???
The ones my Dad had which I now have.
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Old 07-02-2020, 12:30 AM   #21
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It was only one option to drill through the pan head with bit having similar diameter of the screw shank then use locking pliers to remove the screw ,the screw was deep inside the grip and the stripped bit was short ,no damaged to the thread ,now to fix the lock grip I ll need to replace the machine screw with Allen key head ,the lock grip is a new design made basically from the ergonomic handle with some modification cause the old handle was designed for XXL hand ,grip have inclined surface with horizontal axis which easily fixed with sharp file, the only note was the slot where it will engaged to the AR frame still not modified it have very shallow angel (1-5 degree)with the vertical axis similar to the original handle I hope it won't have effect on the recoil management .
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:54 PM   #22
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It's a nice looking grip. Does it end up sitting a bit lower than the former AR handle?
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:59 PM   #23
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DoyenofCastle,

I worked on the Design of the LockDown grip. I'm not sure what you are saying here or why you are filing, maybe to fit on the Wood of the Gun? But the Grip should fit seemlessly onto a standard AR-15 Lower.

One trick. This Grip is designed to be used with both Mid Handle and Rear Handle Spearguns, similarly it is designed to be used with Benchrest Shooting AR-15 Firearms. As such, for Mid Handles and actual AR-15 and other Firearms, the Rake (Forward Angle) is desired less. For Rear Handle Spearguns you can increase the Rake by Angling the Pocket for the Handle Frame or by Shimming the Pocket, or even just putting washers under the front screws of the Handle Frame.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:32 AM   #24
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DoyenofCastle,

But the Grip should fit seemlessly onto a standard AR-15 Lower.
Jon, does your grip have the hole for the AR-15 Safety Detent Spring? Have you tried it on a land based AR-15 lower?

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DoyenofCastle,

I worked on the Design of the LockDown grip. I'm not sure what you are saying here or why you are filing, maybe to fit on the Wood of the Gun? But the Grip should fit seemlessly onto a standard AR-15 Lower.

One trick. This Grip is designed to be used with both Mid Handle and Rear Handle Spearguns, similarly it is designed to be used with Benchrest Shooting AR-15 Firearms. As such, for Mid Handles and actual AR-15 and other Firearms, the Rake (Forward Angle) is desired less. For Rear Handle Spearguns you can increase the Rake by Angling the Pocket for the Handle Frame or by Shimming the Pocket, or even just putting washers under the front screws of the Handle Frame.
Your design is almost perfect
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:16 PM   #26
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It was only one option to drill through the pan head with bit having similar diameter of the screw shank then use locking pliers to remove the screw ,the screw was deep inside the grip and the stripped bit was short ,no damaged to the thread ,now to fix the lock grip I ll need to replace the machine screw with Allen key head ,the lock grip is a new design made basically from the ergonomic handle with some modification cause the old handle was designed for XXL hand ,grip have inclined surface with horizontal axis which easily fixed with sharp file, the only note was the slot where it will engaged to the AR frame still not modified it have very shallow angel (1-5 degree)with the vertical axis similar to the original handle I hope it won't have effect on the recoil management .
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Hi Gary,

Our production order for CTD which is our outlet for the Shooting World has the Saftey Detent Spring Recess and AR-15 Spec 1/4 x 28 Screw. (Most Speargun Handle Frames are 1/4 x 20)
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:43 AM   #28
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recently the local the authority open the beach ,I hope I got good result from this nice grip .
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