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Old 11-30-2010, 09:18 PM   #46
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

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well i did identify that it was legal and unless there is grouper that tastes like ass then why not take the shot? black red gag warsaw... they all cook the same... so i decided i wanted legal food and i got it
and i own a fish id book and that sure as hell doesnt look like the red grouper in the book...
Dont worry about the assholes that felt it was appropiate to leave assinine comments to you. Great process of elimination. I would agree to read up on all your species but Im not downing you for shooting it. FYI "LawnCaptain" has nothing better to do then come on here and leave negative comments to people! LAWNCAPTAIN
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:40 AM   #47
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

It sure looks exactly like a Nassau to me. They look exactly like a Red, but have a black square on the top of the caudal peduncal-the area that narrows before the tail. That is the only difference. And I can see the spot in both pics. They are Federaly protected in the US..
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:46 AM   #48
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

Not to give you to much of a hard time, or be a dick, but why are you shooting fish if you aren't sure what they are? I understand you are newbie, but you need to learn the fish and know how to ID them, it is part of being a responsible diver. Just from the first two pics it looks like it COULD have been a smaller black, but the third definitely shows it to be a Red.

Congrats on the fish, but definitely work on the ID skills...you don't want to run into an issue of shooting the wrong fish, and definitely want to avoid the shoot first ask questions later mentality.

Edit - Just realized there were 4 pages after the first one...gotta keep reading. That said my initial comments hold true, with this addition:

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well i did identify that it was legal and unless there is grouper that tastes like ass then why not take the shot? black red gag warsaw... they all cook the same... so i decided i wanted legal food and i got it
and i own a fish id book and that sure as hell doesnt look like the red grouper in the book...
25" is pretty close to 24" and making that call underwater can be tough. Is it legal is it not...had it been a Black, you would have been very close. I understand it's nice to get a grouper for dinner, and I remember the first grouper I shot. Was a 25" black. I stared it down for a good minute before deciding to shoot, and I still had to double check the length. I usually pass them up now, not worth the risk.

I think most people here are just saying that that isn't a good practice to get into...especially since a black in the brown phase that is barely legal can also look like a red...and a Nassau that is not vibrantly colored nearly IDENTICAL to a red.

Take the comments, learn from it, none of us are trying to deter you from the sport, just trying to make you a better spearo. Good luck!
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:05 AM   #49
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

Reds don't usually have a black dot right before the tail do they? I know a Nassau does.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:16 PM   #50
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Small Red grouper.........
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:38 PM   #51
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

I find it funny as hell that even with those joking around over 20 people who replied can't identify the fish.

I'd recommend pulling the post................
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:16 PM   #52
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

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I find it funny as hell that even with those joking around over 20 people who replied can't identify the fish.

I'd recommend pulling the post................
I agree, this is pretty embarrassing. :facepalm:
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:21 PM   #53
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I don't really blame the guy who started the thread. Sure should he have shot a fish he couldn't identify... no, but he's new to the sport and has to learn. The embarrassing part is most of the people who have replied aren't newbies and should have no problem identifying the fish correctly.
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

So Jeromy, what kind of grouper is it?
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:56 PM   #55
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

Do you feel it necessary to to comment on every post I make?

Why don't you go out and actually shoot something and put up a report.

For the record, it's a Nassau.

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Knock knock....

Who's there???

The FWC.
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:29 PM   #57
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I remember the first grouper I shot. Was a 25" black. I stared it down for a good minute before deciding to shoot,
Damn, are the blacks up your way on quaaludes or what?
That's a pretty tame black.
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

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Do you feel it necessary to to comment on every post I make?

Why don't you go out and actually shoot something and put up a report.

For the record, it's a Nassau.
Your kidding me right!?!? For the record J........it's a red. Here is a pic of a Nassau when you were allowed to shoot them and a pic of red in the same time period. You'll notice the red the little kid shot has the same spot patterns as the fish in question.

Each species shares simmilar body shape traits and can often act in similar manor but folks who have shot both can spot the differences easily.
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:45 PM   #59
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

So whats the deal with the black spot and the yellow fin tips? I've never seen a Red with both. The more I edit that pic the more pronounced it gets.

BTW those shorts are dead sexy!!!!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 05:10 PM   #60
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Re: What kind of grouper is this?

I cant seem to load any pics from my computer to this page, so I put some pics in My Photos, of Nassau Grouper to show they look exactly like this one. They are in my photos here, under Nassau Grouper all the ones that say polespears under them. If someone can figure out how to get them up on here, do so please. Then maybe you all will finally realize that you are making fools of yourselves. You should learn what fish are legal.
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